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    Electricans beware....an new Reg Part P

    Yip the govenment has screwed us again.

    Any of who do not work in that field anymore but are qualified electricians, will not be allowed to do any major electrical work at home without first completing the goverments new competent person scheme. This comes into force on the 1st January 2004.

    This site is designed primarily for firms that carry out fixed electrical installation work in dwellings in England and Wales and want to be able to self-certify that their work complies with the Building Regulations once Part P (electrical safety) is implemented on 1st January 2005.

    The Part 'P' Competent Person Scheme offered here was approved by the Secretary of State on 29th June 2004.

    It is provided by BRE Certification Ltd, with the support and cooperation of the Electrical Contractors' Association and the IEE.

    More info can be found here :- htp://www.partp.co.uk/

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    Is it still ok to change the light bulbs though ?

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    Just, you can add a socket, but you cannot extend or add a new electrical extension...

    We are getting as bad as America and Austrailia......

    I may have to pay some twart, to come and do I job, I could do myself but better......

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    Contacted the Electrical Contractors Association regarding this, and basicall we a fooked
    their website is www.eca.co.uk

    This is the rely I got from them:-

    Quote Originally Posted by ECA

    We'll all be in the same boat come next year! All electrical work in dwellings will be subject to Part P, i.e. it must comply with BS 7671:2001 requirements. What are defined as Minor Works will not be notifiable to Building Control, and should preferably be certified on a Minor Works Certificate by someone who is a competent person within the meaning of BS 7671. Such a competent person will not necessarily have to be Part P certified.This also applies to similar DIY work. Anything more than minor works, e.g. rewire, new circuit(s), work in the kitchen, bathroom, garden, etc. will be notifiable and must be inspected, tested and certified by a Competent Person holding a Part P certificate.

    From the above, you can see that the work you do/you will not be exempt. However, if it's only minor works, as a competent electrician you could self-certify it. If it's more major, e.g. new circuit/ work in special location that's more than, for example, replacing an accessory, then you will require Part P competent person certification.
    So I am going to have to spend almost 1000 so I can legally modify any electrical in my house........

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    hmm ... slightly off topic (as not an electician myself) ... does this mean if I want to change a light fitting in the room (where the ceiling rose goes) I would have to get someone in instead of being able to do it myself now ?

    or am i reading too much into this ?

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    No you can still do that

    you will be allowed to replace switches, sockets light fittings etc.

    As these are not a modification or a major change to an existing circuit.

    I think "Existing Circuit" is the apt phrase, unless its in the Kitchen, Bathroom, Garden or any other special place as the Building Regs put it

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    ok .. phew ... thats a relief for me ... was just going to rush and do all the electrical work before January 2005 to beat the 'deadline' ... normally mess something up when i mess with electrical stuff and having to rush would be more likely to mess up big time.

    Sorry this new law is going to screw up the qualified electricians like yourself ... perhaps some kind of petition ??

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    The good side of this is that kitchen fitter who also is an electrican ( just by chance ) wont now beable to cover up and botch up the electrics and it also should stop cowboy electricians who do shody work and the only knowledge that they really have is the hand outs they read in wicks

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    looks like im no longer a qualified electrician then, bugger going through all that just to do exactly the same as you're doing now

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    Here In QLD Australia it is Illegal to perform any kind of Electrical practise unless you are a certified Tradesman or you Hire one. Whether that be Domestic, Commercial or Industrial.

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