Can it* shut down boxes?

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under i**digital on this forum some guy claims he has programmed software that can detect non subscriber cards and lock the box. I hope i am not scaremongering but I just wondered as to the technical feasibility of it. Can anyone shed any light pls?<br />he posted the following -

cant get into to much detial, But what it does is that Pirate Cards and Originals are completly diff, Basically, it detects the pirate card, Attempts to disable the card (providing its not read only) And also shut down the box, The only way i found out to unlock it was making use of the serial port at the back of the STB, I designed a seperate Windows program to unlock the box, No Decoder card can disable it, You would have to send the STB back to ONdigital to reactivate it, And which means they could charge you a fee for reactivating it.
 
Think that's a load of b****x. There's no way they can lock a box. All I** can do is knock off your cards with an ECM
 
I**D cannot lock boxes, like Gandalf2k <br />said only ECM the card.

The boxes firmware may lock up or even get damaged but thats not down to I**D
 
Anyone else looked at this site, the geezer who posted this s**t is realy anti hack. I go along with previous posts,a load of B*****ks!!
 
I don't know how much truth there is in all of this this BUT

If I** can send out signals to update the software in your box as and when they need to, whats to say they cant send out signals to lock any box that doesnt have an original card in it.

I'm not saying they can, but I wouldnt rule it out either.
 
Good point Cosmoss, but surely I** d would have sussed this long before this diy programmer has. He reckons hes going to make a fortune out of it. I dont know if youve been to this site yet Cosmoss but it all seems a little far fetched.
 
That was my first impression mate, which is why I didnt respond to this thread sooner, I just dont think we should be saying it's a load of bollocks, you dont know how good a programmer this guy is, it could well be possible that he has thought of something that the teccy's at I** have completely overlooked. I'm sure they would be willing to pay big bucks if someone could come up with some software to beat the hack.

I think time will tell, I'll be keeping a close eye on that guys post to see what develops.
 
Well I just read the guys posts and took a look at his shite, sorry I meant site and pesonally I think he's related to Mr Anfield.
 
Lets just hope you dont end up eating humble pie speccy m8.
 
QUOTE:<br />Rob Van Dam <br />It still has to be tested, No doubt Hackers will get round it eventually, But i told I** i will keep makiiung updates for it. I got there permission today to use 5 types of pirate cards, they agreed, I have tested 2 of them so far and the box and the card have been disabled. but the next 3 is important becuase they are read only, i can get round them but i just wanna be paranoid. But i had to stop the now, My flipping laptop has went pete tong, I am awaiting my bro in law to get me a new hard drive.

<marquee> WHAT A LOAD OF SH** I HAVE EVER READ </marquee>

He's had permission to try this out and it works on two that he as tried it on.<br />Ha Ha first think the most used cards of today is the gold card so I** digital would of told him to do this one first.<br />And second thing is he would of needed I** digital to send the signal out in the first place so he could see if it worked.<br />I could go on and on...... it's pie in the sky.

<marquee> Tos**r Of The Month Goes to Rob Van Dam </marquee>

Regards Gazer.
 
Well lets put it like this m8.

Name: Christopher Kenneth Winward<br />He's 17 Currently Unemployed / Drink: I love to get Pished.

So i would say if he had anythink about him, he would not be braging about it, and would be working for I** Digital making loads of doss.

you only have to look at his own site to tell what he is like.

Anyway thats my view of him m8

Regards Gazer.
 
would i** really of had the hindsight to install a chip in all its boxes so that when commanded would 'LOCK' them to counteract anything untoward? and if so why wasnt it used from day 1?
 
He may be full of shit mate, I didnt look at his website etc, but what he is saying could be possible, I'm not saying he can do it, I'm keeping an open verdict on that one, I just think that some of the things he says are credible, and I** could do some of the things he claims to have cracked already.

They seem to be working very hard on beating the hack over recent months, think about it, who got ECM's a year ago?? it could be that this sort of thing is their next wave of attack.

It wouldnt surprise me.
 
It doesnt need a chip les, thay already have the power to update your box, like when they do software updates.
 
but wouldnt the boxes have been built with a chip to recieve updates as anticipated and only such software?
 
we are not in the joke room now guys this kid is not serious.

first of all i** would not agree to anyone using pirate cards to test, he does not make any sence

"I got there permission today to use 5 types of pirate cards, they agreed, I have tested 2"

AAARRRRRRR so he can now send out signals to the boxs... i** can only do this..hummmmm.<br />it got me thinking, but not for very long.<br />yet how the hell did he know that it works if he didn't do the testing??

and then they reply to him.... <br />"I recently got a phone call from some geezer on I** digital, I sent in the Binary file and told me that they are pleased with the software patch, they said in al aspects of the piracy card, it does indeed disable both the card and digital box"

if they sent a signal to a pirate card and box it would have to be on the mass so everyone would have got hit.

he is definatly full of ***t, if he could program he would need to be able to spell correctly first otherwise he would end up making a balls of it.

"I designed a seperate Windows program to unlock the box, No Decoder card can disable it, You would have to send the STB back to ONdigital to reactivate it."

need i say more......
 
Cosmoss u have made some good points but the reason i think I**D cant lock boxes is because they would not know what boxes to lock. They send out standard signals to every box on there network if you like but if they sent a code to lock boxces everyones would lock up.

When I**D send out ECM's they send it out like a broadcast (same as a network of computers if u like) they dont target 1 box they target them all and the cards that cant withstand them get knocked out. Its the cards they can lock up not the boxes.
 
I'm gonna have a say too. This guy is a pratt! But cosmoss is also right, in a way.<br />It is possible for it\/ to update software on boxes. When an invalid card is placed in box, or found to be in the box at any time, instead of getting the message "your card is invalid please call ......." they could use this to 'blow' a micro-fuse setting. In other words alter a code in the config's that is checked before the box is useable.<br />However, this will cause them a lot more work in sending software update signals to repair boxes that have gone wrong for no reason or legitimate reasons. Now it could be something we see in the future, but it doesn't stop the hacks because there will always be firmware/software repairs. So, for now, its not worth there time and trouble because it doesn't solve.<br />I still say this guy's a knob.
 
I don't know if it's the same thing, but on occasion when I've been ecm'ed in the past my nokia box has been turned off,or should I say put in standby mode.All I did was to switch off at the mains and switch on again again and the problem ceased.By the way my daughters fiance works at a factory that refubishes I** boxes,and he says that they are all boxes that are returns and that all they do is clean them up and repack them with the new logos etc.Nothing else is changed apparently.
 
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