Are we trapped in a black hole?

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Interesting article from the telegraph.

Using an adaptation of Einstein's general theory of relativity, Nikodem Poplawski, of Indiana University, Bloomington, analysed the theoretical motion of particles entering a black hole.

He concluded that it was possible for a whole new universe to exist inside every black hole, which could mean that our own universe could be inside a black hole as well.

"Maybe the huge black holes at the centre of the Milky Way and other galaxies are bridges to different universes," he told New Scientist.

Explaining his theory in the journal Physics Letters B, he said he used the Einstein-Cartan-Kibble-Sciama (ECKS) theory of gravity, in his analysis to account for the angular momentum of particles in a black hole. Doing this it made it possible to calculate a quality of space-time called torsion, a property believed to repel gravity.

He says instead of matter reaching infinite density in a black hole called "singularities" in Einstein's theory of relativity - the behaviour of the space-time acts more like a spring being compressed with matter rebounding and expanding continuously.

Dr Poplawski explains that this "bounce-back" effect is caused by the torsion of space-time having a repulsive force against the gargantuan strength of gravity in a black hole.

Dr Poplawski also claims that this recoiling effect could be what has led to our expanding universe that we observe today and could explain why our universe is flat, homogeneous and isotropic without needing cosmic inflation.

It is hard to see how we could test whether or not Dr Poplawski's theory is correct; the force of gravity in black holes is such that nothing can escape, so no information about what is going on inside one can ever reach us.

However, according to Dr Poplawski, if we were living in a spinning black hole then the spin would transfer to the space-time inside, meaning the universe would have a preferred direction - something we would be able to measure. Such a preferred direction could be related to the observed imbalance of matter and anti-matter in the universe and could explain the oscillation of neutrinos.
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Link: A universe could exist 'inside every black hole', claims scientist - Telegraph
 
There's so much that we know about outer space, an almost unbelievable amount, but that pales in comparison to what we still do not know and despite all the info we currently have I get the feeling that it's only the very tip of a colossal galactic iceberg of epic proportions.

Because of the amount of stuff we do not know, I personally would say most things to do with time and space out there in the galaxies are entirely possible, because nobody can say for sure either way, otherwise there wouldn't be a question to ask.

That's why I personally am incredulous when somebody says to me that there's no advanced civilization out there, thus we are the most advanced civilization that there is, well to that I say two things firstly I'm not even sure that statement is or has been correct even on our own planet especially socially, certain animals both extinct and present are said to have had certain capabilities either at least equal to or way beyond what we do....also we are supposed to be the most advanced yet we are the most ignorant and we cannot fly on our own....interesting lol....and secondly given how much we do not know and how big our own galaxy is let alone all the others out there that are like grains of sand in the sahara....is it really beyond the realm of possibility or probability that there is not another earth out there with basically other versions of us living on them ? Or something more advanced than us ? I think not personally. I think that is completely valid to assume. I believe if that was not true that we simply would not exist either. The chances are too vast, the number of retries are infinite and the variation is equally vast there's bound to be some things identical or even more ideal than what we consider earth to be condition wise.

I tell you another thing, this stuff fascinates me always has done, as if you can't tell lol;) but the questions raised on these space time programs blows the mind.....stuff about parallel realities, alternate dimension split offs, how space time works based on the speed of light, things like that.
 
the universe is so vast it is incredible to think we are "special" and "alone"
there are countless galaxies with countless solar systems which could harbour countless earth type planets...
mathmaticly speaking, the universe should be teaming with life, some very diffrent and some very like our own....
the big question is "where is everybody???"
why have we never detected any alien signals? (or have we??)
by rights, they should be everywhere......
 
buzzer said:
the universe is so vast it is incredible to think we are "special" and "alone"
there are countless galaxies with countless solar systems which could harbour countless earth type planets...
mathmaticly speaking, the universe should be teaming with life, some very diffrent and some very like our own....
the big question is "where is everybody???"
why have we never detected any alien signals? (or have we??)
by rights, they should be everywhere......
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If they are intelligent enough to be able to see us, why would they want to come anywhere near us? The first thing they would see would be our tv signals beaming out into space, that rubbish would put any self respecting alien off!
 
Evastar said:
If they are intelligent enough to be able to see us, why would they want to come anywhere near us? The first thing they would see would be our tv signals beaming out into space, that rubbish would put any self respecting alien off!
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yes, your right, they would be avoid us like the fookin plague (if they had one), but
there should be civilisations out there, churning out giveaway signals like our own radio/tv signals. that havn't detected us yet, not trying to avoid us.
there should be civilisations all over the place , less intelligent than us that we should be able to detect.
but nuthin??? this is the part that bothers me, we should be finding something..
maybe some big universal mod has banned us :):):)
 
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intresting very intresting

i do like the programmes about space .etc

very thaught provoking and intresting

keep up these posts and u will earn ur self the DW E.T. title ....lol

jokes aside this has been one of the best posts for a while

that i enjoyed reading

cheers m8
 
Evastar said:
If they are intelligent enough to be able to see us, why would they want to come anywhere near us? The first thing they would see would be our tv signals beaming out into space, that rubbish would put any self respecting alien off!
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Yeah between Big Brother, X Factor and that fookin Go Compare advert I'd deffo be inclined to agree with you! ;)

As for whether or not the universe is teaming with life and if they are here or not, governments keep secrets, in some circles that was the original secret.

I know there's a lot of fake vids out there on the net, but I seen 2 that really stood out as being good...one was the one where the astronauts huge mast snapped off by accident and floated out into space and as it did it was surrounded by hundreds of orbs....and another vid showed an object flying over Earth come to a dead stop and shoot off in the opposite direction as a beam shot came up from the Earth missing the object entirely....both of these vids appeared to be filmed with them fixed state space cams things. And if they were fakes they were 2 of the best I've ever seen....
 
Raven24 said:
Yeah between Big Brother, X Factor and that fookin Go Compare advert I'd deffo be inclined to agree with you! ;)

As for whether or not the universe is teaming with life and if they are here or not, governments keep secrets, in some circles that was the original secret.

I know there's a lot of fake vids out there on the net, but I seen 2 that really stood out as being good...one was the one where the astronauts huge mast snapped off by accident and floated out into space and as it did it was surrounded by hundreds of orbs....and another vid showed an object flying over Earth come to a dead stop and shoot off in the opposite direction as a beam shot came up from the Earth missing the object entirely....both of these vids appeared to be filmed with them fixed state space cams things. And if they were fakes they were 2 of the best I've ever seen....
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Could you link us to the videos, i'm interested in seeing them. I've seen a few from the shuttles, one turned out to be a water droplet on the inside of the window, but the other videos had creepy orbs zooming past, then returning for a few seconds and then shooting off again.
 
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buzzer said:
yes, your right, they would be avoid us like the fookin plague (if they had one), but
there should be civilisations out there, churning out giveaway signals like our own radio/tv signals. that havn't detected us yet, not trying to avoid us.
there should be civilisations all over the place , less intelligent than us that we should be able to detect.
but nuthin??? this is the part that bothers me, we should be finding something..
maybe some big universal mod has banned us :):):)
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well what you must understand is that whenever we talk about space and time , the time frames and distances are masive, huge, imense, so big we have to talk about then in the sense of the amount of distance the fastest thing we know in the universe travels.

so on that note, we have only been giving out radio and television communications for just over 100 years (i`m sure hamba will correct me on that one ;) ) , even if they travelled at the speed of light which they dont they would of only reached a few galaxys and stars , of which there are trillions , so theres lots of reason why they havent contacted us.

but yeah interesting subject.

history channel did a series (ancient aliens) a month or two ago, really really good, one of the better series out, 6 parter for anyone interested in this sort of stuff, i really enjoyed it, also "illuminatis : conquest of space" is an excellant documentary , think it was co written by david `the lizard king` icke. first ten mins need skipping though, has one of the longest intros going, some brilliant footage and excellant evidence.

another one, not so much about ufo`s, but religion, the banking system and illuminati , secret governement and 9/11 is zeitgeist, one of the best documentarys about how fake most religions are going, really does open your eyes, christianity is basically a rip off of much much much much older religions, same as most others.

deffo worth a watch.
 
TheCheekyMonkey said:
even if they travelled at the speed of light which they dont they would of only reached a few galaxys and stars
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This is going to sound really twilight zone but I'm going to say it anyway....according to the documentaries and things I've seen they say that any UFO (and Alien Reproduction Vehicles - man made UFOs essentially) apparently use something what's called zero point energy which so they say is a highly classified alien technology and apparently what it does is it allows us infinite clean energy and the ability to travel many times faster than the speed of light by harnessing the energy around us or something like that, and it's apparently that which allows them (and us) the ability of inter stellar travel and the ability to do them seemingly impossible feats whereby normally if we were able to stop on the dot the inertia alone would kill us....really the amount of technology kept secret is unreal as is our technological rise in the last 50 - 100 years.

If you read up on this it's really thought provoking stuff and apparently we have not needed fossil fuels since the early 1900s but such is the 'need' for oil many people are profiting from the status quo immensely and that's why such technologies are supressed because for them it is too good to become true right now to have a natural and unlimited clean energy source to run in perfect synergy with the environment rather than the limited in resource energy principles we have had for the last however long which many people are profiting from.

You might say I'm a conspiracy nut, and though to an extent they do entertain me as I find them thought provoking if nothing else, it's more the fact that people in general have secrets and can be different behind closed doors to what they put out there publicly as is the same with companies too, so you can guarantee that governments do it also and to a much greater extent....and if governments are keeping things hidden from the public then it's not so far fetched from any standpoint to think that they keep most things hidden. Some of it rightly so. But where does that end ? Suddenly the line between keeping things from the public for our own benefit and then outright lying to the public to benefit yourselves is suddenly blurred and very thin. And they excel at keeping secrets because they have the budget and labyrinthine setup to keep them with.

Obviously I don't know what really goes on in government far from it and there's only a select few that do, but imho, it's 1 of 2 things....either this world is much simpler than we like to think it is, or it's much crazier than either we give it credit for or that we are led to believe.
 
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