Sky UK's New Pairing System

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Just a quick heads up and possibly an end to sharing the Sky UK card (not that anyone would do that). Sky have now introduced a new pairing system which may mean things are going to change in the near future and not in a good way.

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Liam
 

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Saying from 30 October now December everything ok so far just have to wait and see
 
In guessing it hasn't affected shared cards as not all box types are fully updated yet? What about someone who's card is paired to a Thomson box, those HD boxes aren't getting any more updates are they? As digi said in an earlier thread it looks like it affects HD so I'd assume sd variants will still be accessible?

Could see a second coming of the dm500s if HD sharing becomes impossible lol


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i had this message a while back, and was going to post it, but decided against it, as at the time, it was still 'sensitive' information.

at the moment, when re-pairing a card, they are not yet asking for this extra digit, or ive not yet been asked for it, even when sorting cards out on these receivers that DO have this new information. im almost certain that the receiver ID is the mac address (not ripped one apart yet to check lol), so id assume its just a matter of time before they switch from using phone lines to confirm billing data on the card etc, to doing it in real time via your broadband connection, or possibly the card itself being a 'dummy' and the channels are actually decoded via ehternet, in the same way CS works now, and the card just contains your 'line' details password, with the MAC address (receiver ID) being the 'line' username

maybe these boxes running the new software, will be beta testing the next generation of encryption systems without anyone actually realising it? they will be concentrating so hard on 'card sharing' when its not really the card doing anything at all.............?
 
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In guessing it hasn't affected shared cards as not all box types are fully updated yet? What about someone who's card is paired to a Thomson box, those HD boxes aren't getting any more updates are they? As digi said in an earlier thread it looks like it affects HD so I'd assume sd variants will still be accessible?

Could see a second coming of the dm500s if HD sharing becomes impossible lol


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if you have a thompson HD box, and your card is paired to that, they will swap it, under warranty, no matter how old it is, for a new amstrad / sky branded HD receiver, free of charge, as they now say all thompson HD receivers have an unrepairable software bug that has been present from day 1
 
I'm not really sure how they'd do it via Ethernet digi, it would mean attempting to force people to connect their receiver to the Internet and that isn't viable for everyone, not everyone with sky will even have the Internet. How will they get round that??


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im not saying that is it m8, its just one of many posibilities :)
 
im not saying that is it m8, its just one of many posibilities :)

Fair enough mate, the whole thing intrigues me so hearing your theories is interesting so keep em coming :) I think what we can all agree on is something is coming and with commercial card sharing the way it is, no one really can act surprised.


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card sharing has been going on for as long as cards have been used, and the name give away what it really WAS, sharing. someone in germany wanted uk channels, you wanted german channels, between you, you would share what you had with each other.

since the cable scene died, its no longer 'card sharing' its full scale pirate commercialisation, if a million people are using CS in the UK, and it suddenly all got shut down tomorrow, out of them million, i reckon at least a quarter would phone sly and take a full sub within 6 weeks, another 1/4 of a million within 6 months would take out a sub of some sort

sly will be thinking 'why should these pirates be making OUR money instead of us'
 
Its interesting how they will eventually overcome it, if they'll bother at all. I would say Sky had the monopoly back in the day when generally it was that or 4 channels on terrestrial or a VHS rental from your local video store unlike today where you have freeview, and all this on demand stuff let alone Virmin and BT vision. Realistically now people only have Sly for sport and not a great deal more, as generally its rubbish, take the sport away and what are you left with - a load of repeats, oh and Geordie Shore :S great.
 
Your right mate, on 28.2e the only thing I don't want to miss is football which means sly sports, espn and setanta :(


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I'm not really sure how they'd do it via Ethernet digi, it would mean attempting to force people to connect their receiver to the Internet and that isn't viable for everyone, not everyone with sky will even have the Internet. How will they get round that??.

Suppose Sly could make people take the BB with the TV or even give minimum bb package for free and and use it as a sales incentive as if they are doing you a favour.
But you do still have people in remote areas... maybe dongles for them. Its going to cost them one way or another but i'm sure they'll get it all back....especially if it works.
 
Imagine if your internet connection isn't very good or you get constant or some picture breakup.
There will be a lot of unhappy customers on the phone to sky.
 
you get constant or some picture breakup.

I have that problem now, so I usually ring my peer up and give him a bollocking which normally works as I can't watch Wheeler Dealers, he's out in the sticks and uses Talk Talk and ends up blaming them, but in reality I know he's maxing his bandwidth downloading porn.

All of the above is NOT TRUE and merely in jest. (Apart from watching Wheeler Dealers)

Regards

Liam
 
for a long time now, sly have been offering free BB to its customers, its a basic package, but its free, and they have recently slashed the cost of their wifi bridge to a tenner, and all the adverts tempt people to connect their hd boxes with all of the free on demand offerings

the key data is tiny, and when it used to actually BE sharing, people used to use it on internet connections a LOT slower than even todays very slow BB connections, with no problems

peoples 'breakup' probelms are from overcrowded servers, or the line the server is on uploading so much data that a key gets lost, and doesnt get to the client in time
 
peoples 'breakup' probelms are from overcrowded servers, or the line the server is on uploading so much data that a key gets lost, and doesnt get to the client in time

Or at the moment, sly sending more complex ecm's slowing things down on various services here and there. sneaky gits lol
 
if you have a thompson HD box, and your card is paired to that, they will swap it, under warranty, no matter how old it is, for a new amstrad / sky branded HD receiver, free of charge, as they now say all thompson HD receivers have an unrepairable software bug that has been present from day 1


hmmmm... Maybe its more like that box got ROOTED! Sky is probly scared that people could 'play' with this box and figure out how the pairing system works lol ;)

Post #13 (iso mick)

https://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/index.php?threads/239582/#post1780827

bring on the rooting of the amstrads haha....
 
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Any more up-to-date news on this, chaps? First I heard about it was this afternoon.
 
Hi. The one channel you will not get without the new pairing system is "Channel 995" on 11.836 H. If you can get that, the new pairing system is in place. This is an SD channel but only opens if your cared has been paired the new way.

Personally, I would not use sat boxes for piracy, but would prefer to use my Sky card in a different box, as the Sky Digibox spec is in fact illegal, because it does NOT allow you to tune in manually to ANY channels configured in DVB-S2, but you can tun in DVB-S configured HD channels on the HD boxes.

Also, BBC services at 23000 are impossible to tune - this is also illegal. All satellite boxes are mane to be able to tune into all FTA signals.

With the new system, you will only get family pack channels on another box.

If anyone is able to get "Channel 995" open on a different box, that should then work.

Channel "1451" works on HD subs only, but "Channel 995" works only on the new pairing system.

if anyone has any more info on this, please get in touch.

Thanks.
 
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