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whats happend to the country......... why did they privaties everything.....this counrty used to be the flagship of the commonweath we had everything and yea we used to moan but we still had everything....

royal mail is going on strike for 4 days then 1 day break then stike for another 4 days

now i think a fair days wage for a fair days work is the only way to work but come on guys give us a break
 
There striking again? for god sake, what's wrong with these lazy sods? If there not happy with the pay then they should find another job, and get people in who will work for the money rather than just moan.
 
Royal Mail is not a private company, its still owned by the State. Its just not paid for by taxes (i.e. supposed to be self sufficent)

The strike is over more than just the 2.5% pay offer. The main reason why is that RM want to attach modernisation conditions to the pay increase. This includes a change in working hours which will reduce the amount of unsocial hours enhancements paid (this actually amounts to a pay cut for most posties).

If your local collection office has suddenly stopped opening at 5.30/6am and instead now opens at 7.30am, this is why. The argument from Royal Mail is that it reduces the amount of trucks out on the road. With the later opening time the trucks now have longer to get to their destination, so they can either leave the distribution centre later to catch late arriving loads or multiple destinations can be loaded as maximising capacity reduces costs.

My postie mate recons that the main problem for this is that, like a lot of companies, RM took a 'pension break' in the 90's. Now due to the gap left, the current posties are being penalised. This does make sence (it can be seen in other sectors with the demise of the final salary schemes etc), but is obviously biased.
 
to be hohnest......

they are shooting themselves in the foot..... as people will change to using courier services....

people will start to use email much more...... espcially as banks are now getting rid of paper statements....

soon there will be no need for you everyday post.......... and there not helping the situation... as many people are getting fed up with the constant strikes!

they will soon find themselves out of a job due to lack of work!
 
I for one commend the postal workers. If more people went out on strike we would acheive something.
ie, petrol prices.

yes it is a big annoyance, i am expectin loads of deliveries thru ebay and need to send loads out. and am expecting important mail but at the end of the day, they are human and like all of us deserve decent working conditions.

If they are peeved off, if they have really crap working conditions and arent satisfied with their job it will affect all of us. they start slacking, one in 10 mail ends up not getting delivered, put in the bin or whatever, its just human nature. job satisfaction = job done well.

i hope they get their pay rise and better conditions. royal mail have delievered for me 99 percent of the time.
 
i dont agree with the postal strikes - there is always a much better way to deal with things than just downing tools and walking out.

Also, from business perspective, the posties are going to damage the image of royal mail for quite some time to come. Shortly after the last strike, Amazon stopped using them for some deliveries. Granted, it now means that these deliveries from amazon are really slow - but it cost the royal mail something like 7 million a year.

I also notice from the press that they are promising strikes over christmas. We all know what this will mean, many of us receive cards and gifts from members of the family we dont hear from so much at this time of year. In my mind, this is the posties punishing us for their greivances with royal mail. It will also damage the business for royal mail at a key period in the year. If the cwu wants a decent deal made, why would they try and cripple the business (which they depend on for any form of pay rise) in such a way?

To be honest, enough is enough - someone should have stepped in by now to force a resoloution. Either the government should remove the mandate for the royal mail in the UK or force them to the table with the cwu and acas.
 
to be hohnest......

they are shooting themselves in the foot..... as people will change to using courier services....

people will start to use email much more...... espcially as banks are now getting rid of paper statements....

soon there will be no need for you everyday post.......... and there not helping the situation... as many people are getting fed up with the constant strikes!

they will soon find themselves out of a job due to lack of work!


Agree 100% m8.

With all the constant price increases and the slower and slower service and interupted service that we get these days i usually pay the extra £1 and get the things that i order online delivered by courier.
 
Unions should be banned, if you don`t want to work under the the conditions your employer sets out then you leave and work for someone else, If this happend then the employer would have to change so people did want to work for them, pisses me off big time, want to work here, this is how it`s done, don`t like it, **** off !
 
I think unions do a good job of protecting workers who could be abused, so I dont think they need banned.

I do think however, that they shouldnt be allowed to get strikes underway. For instance, you dont see it developers, telecoms engineers or pilots go on strike so often do you? And they all share a similar salary and working hours to posties...
 
ppl should get a decent days pay for a decent days work, all the posties are asking for is that,
as for unions , if we had no unions then employers could do what they want with employees.
if the boss played fair then the worker wouldnt have to go on strike , the only reason the boss fears the union is that it prevents him BOSSING the staff around,
we still have low pay, and thats why employers use "incoming workers", they are cheap !!!

i was brought up to believe u get a decent days pay for a decent days work,
your labour power was the only thing that the working man can sell so when he sells it , he should make sure he gets as much as he can for it,..
after all isnt that what the fatcats do ?
 
The postmen are gonna end up striking themselves out of a job. Posties do get a decent days pay for a decent days work. And if they don't like the pay and conditions, they should F@;k Off and let someone have the job who isn't going to moan.

If you want more money, train to be a plumber/electrician/solicitor. Delivering post is an unskilled job, and you shouldn't jepordise other peoples business's by striking.

It is not going to get you anywhere.
 
Unions should be banned, if you don`t want to work under the the conditions your employer sets out then you leave and work for someone else, If this happend then the employer would have to change so people did want to work for them, pisses me off big time, want to work here, this is how it`s done, don`t like it, **** off !

You wouldnt be a company director by any chance would you? lol
 
i know someone who works for the royal mail, he tells me they get paid for a certain number of sick day's a year. it has been common practice for most upto and including management to be "ill" while on holiday in another country getting and sun tan and a pay cheque. the whole business is full of thieving and the transit time and cost of mail is frankly outrageous.

The sad truth is it is the british working eccumen thats at fault here, the main philosophy appears to be how much money can i get and how little work can i get away with doing for it. The driving force behind any company is its work force, they are the reason the postal service is a so poor from the toilet cleaner to the manager. They get no personal satisfaction out of seeing targets met and exceeded, "indicative of much of the british labour force".
A fair days pay for a fair days work << should be exactly that, by my reconning they must owe the royal mail a fortune by now.

I for 1 get paid when i am ill from work, but i have had 4 days sick in 2 years. Cos i care wether the company i work for meets targets and grows. royal mail workers need to take a sanity pill before they destroy the royal mail, it is only a matter of when not if someone decides to step up to the plate and steal royal mail business on the ground floor. royal mail must save money and become more efficient that is a business fact!

TBC

i agree these outdated unions need shot of sooner rather than later, this country is run by a fookin union disguising itself as the labour party.
btw i would say that european labour reforms are what is responsible for protecting workers conditions not unions. they shot there bolt in the 70's and 80's
 
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o.k i know a few lads that work for royal mail and their not exactly skint.
they should maybe try another employment option if their not happy.
im self-employed and ive no bloddy union to look after me,if i dont go to work i dont get paid.thats life!
 
This kinda messed up my plans as i had just ordered a load of stuff of ebay!! i never watch the news much now, or read papers so didn't know until now. Wondered why it was taking a long time lol.
 
i have to agree with other people that they are just shooting themselves in the foot and endangering their own jobs with the strikes
 
royal mail is doing to themselves why?

they want to privatise, its as simple as that i do feel for the posties. it might not a skilled job but none the less they have a right to be paid for the job they do!

cost of living is going up, if 40,00 posties got made redundant if it was your friend, your family or someone close to you how would you be feeling? job losses are never a good thing and the service has gone down cus the FAT CATS are sucking the life out it! executive holidays, company cars! bonuses! they probably do less work than the posties yet they earn 10-100x more!

scrap the money grabbing management and directors! give the posties the increase! stop the attempts of privatisation by royal mail.
 
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Reading some of the posts in this thread, there are people here who would have yopu living victorian lives. Yes guvnor i'll doff my cap off when i speak to you boss.The working man is having his rights taken away from him,and who is to blame ? The Government.
The same government that has turned it's back on the very ideals it's supposed to represent.Labour used to be a voice for the working man Now they are as bad as the Tory's were in the 80's.
That bitch Thatcher destroyed the unions. The Miners and the Dockers.So what does that c**t Brown do ? he invites the fookin owl slapper into Downing street and sings her praises.

remember The Firemans strike ? they got slaughtered for being greedy bastards by the public.Fact was the same people who recommended the government got a big rise also recommended the fireman got better pay too. What happened , The government gave themselves a rise and the firemen had to whistle for theirs.
The posties are worried about their jobs.They know they are going to get shafted by the bosses and that they will face job losses.Just look around at the post offices these days, how many are left. They are becoming as rare as a sack of rocking horse shite.I for one back the posties as i backed the firemen and as i would back any man protecting his job. UP THE WORKERS !!
 
i dont agree with the postal strikes - there is always a much better way to deal with things than just downing tools and walking out.

Also, from business perspective, the posties are going to damage the image of royal mail for quite some time to come. Shortly after the last strike, Amazon stopped using them for some deliveries. Granted, it now means that these deliveries from amazon are really slow - but it cost the royal mail something like 7 million a year.

I also notice from the press that they are promising strikes over christmas. We all know what this will mean, many of us receive cards and gifts from members of the family we dont hear from so much at this time of year. In my mind, this is the posties punishing us for their greivances with royal mail. It will also damage the business for royal mail at a key period in the year. If the cwu wants a decent deal made, why would they try and cripple the business (which they depend on for any form of pay rise) in such a way?

To be honest, enough is enough - someone should have stepped in by now to force a resoloution. Either the government should remove the mandate for the royal mail in the UK or force them to the table with the cwu and acas.


I think they didnt have any option but to strike I am sure if there was a better way to sort it this out they would have found it. If more people stood up for what they believed in then this country would be a far better place to leave .
 
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