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Simply, surface trunk it M8 and avoid the pain
Yep complete agreement
Or you could just chase it in and forget you asked lol...
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Put right electric cable to outside door light
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Yep complete agreement
Or you could just chase it in and forget you asked lol...
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Don't see the problem with that Fuseboard. There is an rcd in it that probably protects that socket. The simple way of finding out would be to hit the test button on the rcd and plug something into the socket and see if it works. If its gone off then there is no problem with chasing into the wall.
That said I don't see the point in chasing this bit when the existing bit is already in trunking
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That said I don't see the point in chasing this bit when the existing bit is already in trunking
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I could not read the rcd to see what the ma was, he could just use swa lol and do what he wants . The same with earthed metallic protection ( ie capping earthed )
If it's an S type it will not trip in time...
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and do what he wants . The same with earthed metallic protection ( ie capping earthed )If it's an S type it will not trip in time...
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@DiamondGeezer - sorry M8, buried in regs now is you!
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Sorry maybe was not to clear, was going to chase in the wiring form ceiling down to socket as well.
The bit of trunking to the left for the thermostat will hopefully be gone next week when I have the BT Hive system put in
Make you right there, just gone and checked and a sticker on the outside says last inspection 94, next inspection 99
I had BG Homecare up until recently and I guess they had being checking it when they used to do the electrics tests
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Long story short m8 is if you really do want to chase it:
1. Press the test button on right hand switch.in Fuseboard and then make sure it has killed that socket.
2. Reset the switch in Fuseboard and check to see if it says anywhere on the front of it 30ma
If both of these are a yes then chase it. The vertical chase would technically not be legal but you will know its there and never put a nail through it
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1. Press the test button on right hand switch.in Fuseboard and then make sure it has killed that socket.
2. Reset the switch in Fuseboard and check to see if it says anywhere on the front of it 30ma
If both of these are a yes then chase it. The vertical chase would technically not be legal but you will know its there and never put a nail through it
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Long story short m8 is if you really do want to chase it:
1. Press the test button on right hand switch.in Fuseboard and then make sure it has killed that socket.
2. Reset the switch in Fuseboard and check to see if it says anywhere on the front of it 30ma
If both of these are a yes then chase it. The vertical chase would technically not be legal but you will know its there and never put a nail through it
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Thanks for the advice, if I do chase (provising it meets 1 & 2) then using an unswitched fused spur I can get this well within 150mm of the ceiling
Can't you just join a new peace of wire to old and draw it through door frame or has it been fixed so you can't
I've taken a good look at that option and gave it a little tug but its really tight so don't think I'll be able to draw it through, it must be well jammed in up above the door frame somewhere.
Wow, a lot of hassle just for the outside light!
I am in the process of debating over an outside light and I thought I could just spur off a light switch near the front door... I would never put it into practice without advice however.
Another alternative of course is Solar. I currently have a Solar Wall Light next to the front door, it is bright enough BUT I don't get quite enough sunlight to charge it every day. In the summer it is fine because it gets enough and does not come on as much as it does in the winter.
This is the one I bought : http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Solar-C...id=1382453816&sr=8-2&keywords=solar+wall+lamp
They do motion sensor ones etc.. But this one I am going to have to move into the back garden as it is pretty much useless in the winter and come up with something else.
I am in the process of debating over an outside light and I thought I could just spur off a light switch near the front door... I would never put it into practice without advice however.
Another alternative of course is Solar. I currently have a Solar Wall Light next to the front door, it is bright enough BUT I don't get quite enough sunlight to charge it every day. In the summer it is fine because it gets enough and does not come on as much as it does in the winter.
This is the one I bought : http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Solar-C...id=1382453816&sr=8-2&keywords=solar+wall+lamp
They do motion sensor ones etc.. But this one I am going to have to move into the back garden as it is pretty much useless in the winter and come up with something else.
Ha ha that's what I thought, glad I ran it through the guys here though....some good advice and options
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Chances are you will have no neutral at the light switch. If this is the case then you won't be able to
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You could rob a neutral from somewhere else? Oh Bugger, the RCD trips all the time
Get a sparks in to sort it . :whistle:
Hehe, the OP asked for advice so I won't complicate matters further by referring to the original question. I could comment on the statutory requirements and the incredibly convoluted path but Mods and Admins would chastise me for causing so many members to suddenly fall asleep or self-harm!
BS 1761 Regulations are not 'Regulations', they're mainly recommendations (except some are not); Building Regulations are only relevant if you want a certificate (except some work is illegal); Building Control can only check back 12 months (except sometimes they can go back further). A 'competent person' (electrical) is 'ill-defined' (except a good solicitor can argue either way).
There is ONE Statutory Instrument with respect to domestic electrical installations and it refers mainly to 'Notifiable Jobs'. Some ridiculous examples include full electrical inspection (Periodic Inspection, now Electrical Installation Condition Report) - not notifiable; add switched fused spur in kitchen to feed conservatory (notifiable, 'Special Location'); add switched fused spur in dining room on the other side of the wall to feed conservatory (not-notifiable).
Vested interests pushed in the Statutory Instrument, business interests changed it this year, the Statutory Instrument is mostly misunderstood in the electrical industry. It was supposed to help customers but they are largely worse off than they ever were!
I can't post further other than to say I read the 'regs' then apply common-sense
Had another thought that I could get away with. I have a cellar that has an old coal chute. The Electrics are all in the cellar and therefore I can probably come from the fuse box (an expert would obviously do this), up through the chute to the light on the outside wall?
Alternatively, I have a socket next to the bay window. I could drill out of the bay and run a cable up the wall from there. It would be powered by a normal socket in the front room then. Would that work?
Alternatively, I have a socket next to the bay window. I could drill out of the bay and run a cable up the wall from there. It would be powered by a normal socket in the front room then. Would that work?
