Can I ask all uk members with the exeption of members residing in Scotland to take part in this poll please
For the attention of all uk residents with the exeption of people living in Scotland
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Can we discuss first?
Can we discuss first?
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Just want to get a feel for views at present
If it makes it easier for you then why not
Just want to get a feel for views at present
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Well, may be a bit contentious but MY view is we are BOTH in danger of getting shafted. I can not see a worker winning whichever way it goes?
Well, may be a bit contentious but MY view is we are BOTH in danger of getting shafted. I can not see a worker winning whichever way it goes?
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Re: For the attention of all uk residents with the exeption of people living in Scotl
we've been getting shafted since i can remember
we've been getting shafted since i can remember
Re: For the attention of all uk residents with the exeption of people living in Scotl
haven't we been shafted since goverment's began
haven't we been shafted since goverment's began
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Why are only The Scottish allowed to vote in the referendum,does this not also affect all those living in the UK.?
Why are only The Scottish allowed to vote in the referendum,does this not also affect all those living in the UK.?
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this demonstrates the problem with union as its stands.
if the whole of the UK voted, then the opinions of the Scots would count for very little.
As has happened in previous general elections..
I agree though, everyone in the UK should have a say somehow.
don't know how it could be made to work though..
this demonstrates the problem with union as its stands.
if the whole of the UK voted, then the opinions of the Scots would count for very little.
As has happened in previous general elections..
I agree though, everyone in the UK should have a say somehow.
don't know how it could be made to work though..
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I hope that poll yesterday galvanises the NO voters to turn out in force, but if there is a YES vote I can envisage the problems in a few years time for the UK Border Agency trying to stop the flood of illegal Scottish immigrants.
I hope that poll yesterday galvanises the NO voters to turn out in force, but if there is a YES vote I can envisage the problems in a few years time for the UK Border Agency trying to stop the flood of illegal Scottish immigrants.
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Yes as you say we are all a union all together and really all should have a say..I understand that I'm English and live in England but if it's split then it will undoubtedly affect me in some way or other.
To be honest I'm hoping what ever happens it benefits the Scottish and if they do become a completely different country it is what they want and helps them prosper..
this demonstrates the problem with union as its stands.
if the whole of the UK voted, then the opinions of the Scots would count for very little.
As has happened in previous general elections..
I agree though, everyone in the UK should have a say somehow.
don't know how it could be made to work though..
Yes as you say we are all a union all together and really all should have a say..I understand that I'm English and live in England but if it's split then it will undoubtedly affect me in some way or other.
To be honest I'm hoping what ever happens it benefits the Scottish and if they do become a completely different country it is what they want and helps them prosper..
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I fear for the no campaign @nara it could be too little to late. Devo max should have been an option on the ballot paper
I hope that poll yesterday galvanises the NO voters to turn out in force, but if there is a YES vote I can envisage the problems in a few years time for the UK Border Agency trying to stop the flood of illegal Scottish immigrants.
I fear for the no campaign @nara it could be too little to late. Devo max should have been an option on the ballot paper
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I'm sure there will queues of people lining up at your border controls
Scotland has only 8.3% of the UK's population. 8.3%! Remember this important figure... 8.3%
But we DO have...
32% of the land area....
61% of the sea area.
90% of the fresh water.
65% of the natural gas production.
96.5% of the crude oil production.
47% of the open cast coal production
81% of the untapped coal reserves
62% of the timber production
46% of the total forest area
92% of the hydro electric production
40% of the wind wave and solar energy production
60% of the fish landings
30% of the beef herd
20% of the sheep herd
9% of the dairy herd
10% of the pig herd
15% if the cereal holdings
20% of the potato holdings
...obviously 100% of the Scotch Whiskey industry.
We have a...
17 billion pound construction industry
13 billion food and drink industry
10 billion business services industry
9.3 billion chemical services industry
A 9.3 billion tourism industry
7 billion financial services industry
5 billion aeroservice industry
4.5 billion pound whiskey exports industry
3.1 billion pound life sciences industry
Scotland still has 350 million pounds worth of textile exports
We have 25% of Europes wave and wind energy potential.
And finally we are blessed to have 1.5 trillion pound worth of oil and gas reserves.
All of this, yet only 8.3% of The UK's population... Whaow Scotland should be rich!
Do you know... This is the UK's legacy of success in our history of being better-together is as follows...
The UK has the 3rd lowest pensions in the 34 OECD countries of the world
The UK has the single most expensive childcare in the European Union
The UK has the second lowest-paid economy in the entire developed world
The UK has the 3rd longest working hours in the EU
The UK has the lowest number of holidays in the EU
The UK has the 8th highest gender inequality pay gap out of the EU's 28 countries
The UK has the highest likelihood of poverty in disablement in the EU
The UK has the highest rail prices in Europe
The UK has the second highest housing cost in Europe
The UK has the highest fuel poverty rates in Europe.
The UK is the 4th highest country of wealth inequality in the entire planet!
But surely these awful figures cannot be possible when you read the following Scottish statistics...
Now, finally, did you also know that in all of the UK's elections for Westminster ever!... Not one vote cast in SCOTLAND has ever mattered! Because of the Westminster numbers, whatever government England votes for, the UK gets. So we have no democracy here!!! 4 decades of tory rule that we voted against is proof enough, and our defiance was punished by the closure of all the mines; closure of all the steelworks; closure of all the shipyards losing hundreds if thousands of jobs. The term used by Westminster's Thatcher when these industries needed some assistance was "let the markets decide". Funny how when the greedy bankers collapsed everywhere they were bailed out to the tune of over a trillion pounds of our money... Not a mention of "let the markets decide".
FACTS:
Fact: Scotland has an oil boom waiting to happen on the West Coast, but Michael Hesaltine signed a cessation of any form of oil exploration in the entire area in the 80's to make way for nuclear submarines which Scotland doesn't want!
Fact: Scotland has shown its revulsion time and time again to nuclear weapons but they place them here against our countries wishes. A recent contingency report was carried out a out the feasibility of relocating them in Portsmouth. The report stated that it was unfeasible because the detrimental risk to the area of an incident was too high. (Ok for the Clyde though)
Fact: Scotland, with only 1 Tory MP, was forced to take the shocking attack on the poor & disabled called The Bedroom Tax, even though as our nations government, Holyrood voted to utterly reject this awful tax on the poor. Westminster gave us it anyway!
Fact: We are led to believe that the oil in our waters is finished and its a dying industry. Yet 13.5 billion has been invested by oil companies in the last 2 years alone!
Fact: The Clair Oil Field is about to open, and on its own has over 650 million barrels which will be extracted over 20+ years with production reaching a hundred thousand barrels a day!
Fact: Scotland gives more to Westminster than it gets back. Do you really think they'd be so keen to keep us if we were being subsidised like they'd have us believe?
Fact: Westminster has amassed over £1.3 trillion debt and still growing at nearly £6000 a second. Thats another £516 million today alone which YOU will have to pay for.
Fact: Of the 178 countries that have gained their own independence across this planet, not one single one of them has ever asked to reverse this independence, and very few of them have the assets we have.
I hope that poll yesterday galvanises the NO voters to turn out in force, but if there is a YES vote I can envisage the problems in a few years time for the UK Border Agency trying to stop the flood of illegal Scottish immigrants.
I'm sure there will queues of people lining up at your border controls
Scotland has only 8.3% of the UK's population. 8.3%! Remember this important figure... 8.3%
But we DO have...
32% of the land area....
61% of the sea area.
90% of the fresh water.
65% of the natural gas production.
96.5% of the crude oil production.
47% of the open cast coal production
81% of the untapped coal reserves
62% of the timber production
46% of the total forest area
92% of the hydro electric production
40% of the wind wave and solar energy production
60% of the fish landings
30% of the beef herd
20% of the sheep herd
9% of the dairy herd
10% of the pig herd
15% if the cereal holdings
20% of the potato holdings
...obviously 100% of the Scotch Whiskey industry.
We have a...
17 billion pound construction industry
13 billion food and drink industry
10 billion business services industry
9.3 billion chemical services industry
A 9.3 billion tourism industry
7 billion financial services industry
5 billion aeroservice industry
4.5 billion pound whiskey exports industry
3.1 billion pound life sciences industry
Scotland still has 350 million pounds worth of textile exports
We have 25% of Europes wave and wind energy potential.
And finally we are blessed to have 1.5 trillion pound worth of oil and gas reserves.
All of this, yet only 8.3% of The UK's population... Whaow Scotland should be rich!
Do you know... This is the UK's legacy of success in our history of being better-together is as follows...
The UK has the 3rd lowest pensions in the 34 OECD countries of the world
The UK has the single most expensive childcare in the European Union
The UK has the second lowest-paid economy in the entire developed world
The UK has the 3rd longest working hours in the EU
The UK has the lowest number of holidays in the EU
The UK has the 8th highest gender inequality pay gap out of the EU's 28 countries
The UK has the highest likelihood of poverty in disablement in the EU
The UK has the highest rail prices in Europe
The UK has the second highest housing cost in Europe
The UK has the highest fuel poverty rates in Europe.
The UK is the 4th highest country of wealth inequality in the entire planet!
But surely these awful figures cannot be possible when you read the following Scottish statistics...
Now, finally, did you also know that in all of the UK's elections for Westminster ever!... Not one vote cast in SCOTLAND has ever mattered! Because of the Westminster numbers, whatever government England votes for, the UK gets. So we have no democracy here!!! 4 decades of tory rule that we voted against is proof enough, and our defiance was punished by the closure of all the mines; closure of all the steelworks; closure of all the shipyards losing hundreds if thousands of jobs. The term used by Westminster's Thatcher when these industries needed some assistance was "let the markets decide". Funny how when the greedy bankers collapsed everywhere they were bailed out to the tune of over a trillion pounds of our money... Not a mention of "let the markets decide".
FACTS:
Fact: Scotland has an oil boom waiting to happen on the West Coast, but Michael Hesaltine signed a cessation of any form of oil exploration in the entire area in the 80's to make way for nuclear submarines which Scotland doesn't want!
Fact: Scotland has shown its revulsion time and time again to nuclear weapons but they place them here against our countries wishes. A recent contingency report was carried out a out the feasibility of relocating them in Portsmouth. The report stated that it was unfeasible because the detrimental risk to the area of an incident was too high. (Ok for the Clyde though)
Fact: Scotland, with only 1 Tory MP, was forced to take the shocking attack on the poor & disabled called The Bedroom Tax, even though as our nations government, Holyrood voted to utterly reject this awful tax on the poor. Westminster gave us it anyway!
Fact: We are led to believe that the oil in our waters is finished and its a dying industry. Yet 13.5 billion has been invested by oil companies in the last 2 years alone!
Fact: The Clair Oil Field is about to open, and on its own has over 650 million barrels which will be extracted over 20+ years with production reaching a hundred thousand barrels a day!
Fact: Scotland gives more to Westminster than it gets back. Do you really think they'd be so keen to keep us if we were being subsidised like they'd have us believe?
Fact: Westminster has amassed over £1.3 trillion debt and still growing at nearly £6000 a second. Thats another £516 million today alone which YOU will have to pay for.
Fact: Of the 178 countries that have gained their own independence across this planet, not one single one of them has ever asked to reverse this independence, and very few of them have the assets we have.
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Don't know where you copied and pasted that wodge of propaganda from, but the numpty who wrote it ought to be ashamed of themself for not knowing that there's no such thing as Scotch Whiskey. :Laugh:
We're agreed on that much.
Don't know where you copied and pasted that wodge of propaganda from, but the numpty who wrote it ought to be ashamed of themself for not knowing that there's no such thing as Scotch Whiskey. :Laugh:
I'm sure there will queues of people lining up at your border controls
We're agreed on that much.
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aye better together right enough eh ?
aye better together right enough eh ?
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So international law doesn't allow the rest of the UK a say.
The Charter of the United Nations, to which the UK is a signatory, grants the legal right of self-determination.
So international law doesn't allow the rest of the UK a say.
Err... The people of the Crimean Peninsula would beg to differ!
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yep that was democratic refarendum right enough !
Option one was to reunify with Russia.
Option two was to declare de facto independence from the rest of Ukraine.
Option three – to remain as part of Ukraine as before – did not have a box.
Perhaps not surprisingly, therefore, most of those who turned out to vote yesterday were firmly in favour of the options for which there was a box to tick.
yep that was democratic refarendum right enough !
Option one was to reunify with Russia.
Option two was to declare de facto independence from the rest of Ukraine.
Option three – to remain as part of Ukraine as before – did not have a box.
Perhaps not surprisingly, therefore, most of those who turned out to vote yesterday were firmly in favour of the options for which there was a box to tick.
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I'm not going to get into a debate about it tbh
But that's my opinion yes
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Of course that's just my opinion
I'm not going to get into a debate about it tbh
But that's my opinion yes
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