People are scum!

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So I was walking home from work on Friday and three lads on bikes went past me. Next minute some totally distraught girl goes past me shouting "Stop those bikes!" So I said to her "What have they done?", and she tells me that they've just stolen her phone!

How can people do this to each other? Can you imagine how that poor girl must feel now? She may be terrified of leaving her house. Total scum. And for what? To sell a phone for next to nothing at their local pub no doubt?

I started looking into this a bit, and the area seems to be a hotspot. Some poor lad was killed in 2011 chasing after these idiots trying to get his phone back. Probably the same people, doing the same thing in 2011, which resulted in someones death! Again what for? To get £50 for a stolen phone?
 
Purity said:
So I was walking home from work on Friday and three lads on bikes went past me. Next minute some totally distraught girl goes past me shouting "Stop those bikes!" So I said to her "What have they done?", and she tells me that they've just stolen her phone!

How can people do this to each other? Can you imagine how that poor girl must feel now? She may be terrified of leaving her house. Total scum. And for what? To sell a phone for next to nothing at their local pub no doubt?

I started looking into this a bit, and the area seems to be a hotspot. Some poor lad was killed in 2011 chasing after these idiots trying to get his phone back. Probably the same people, doing the same thing in 2011, which resulted in someones death! Again what for? To get £50 for a stolen phone?
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One of those posts where the "like" or "thanks" button causes confusion (at least to me).
Either would fit for you reporting the event, and your conclusion, but obviously neither for the event itself.

As you say, petty scum, no doubt on their way to greater things unless stopped. The question is "how can you stop them?".
The police aren't interested unless you grab one (at some personal risk), then you'll be at risk of an assault charge.
Film the event, and your phone's target as well, or the video is "inconclusive" evidence. If they were caught, what punishment?
They're "socially disadvantaged" or drug "victims" and you're picking on them etc etc..

I shouldn't have to suggest this, but is it absolutely necessary to walk around holding a mobile phone in your hand?
I see it all the time. There are pockets and bags, and I survive without carrying a phone anyway.
 
Yes you are right. There are ways of limiting this by keeping your phone out of sight. Problem is that this is a student area, so they are all constantly using their phones. Can you tell students to stop using their phones :)
 
It's about a quality that society has apparently ditched....................Respect !!!
Respect for others, Respect for property and Respect for yourself !!!! There will always be thieving scum out there, but they don't care about anyone or anything other than themself and they don't care what damage or harm they do to anyone or anything out there. This used to be the attitude of a desperate criminal, now it is the attitude of every petty thieving scrote out there and if someone dares to stand up against them they know they will become a target of threats, intimidation and violence.
And those adopting this attitude are getting younger and younger ; I walk very slowly with a stick and have been out with my wife, walking our dog and we have had kids as young as six or seven throw things at us, swear at us and generally try to scare and intimidate us and the only reason for this appears to have been that we were the only ones about and we must have looked like an easy target to frighten (although, if they came close enough they would soon find out different, but then I would probably end up being the one in the wrong).
Now, I am not saying everyone out there is like that but the numbers who are is undoubtedly increasing and although it might not be a popular view, I equate the rise in this behaviour in the decline in punishment. If I had ever seen or heard that my kids had behaved like those youngsters that I said about earlier, then my kids would of had a good smack.......................my kids knew that and they didn't do things like that, and they have said to my wife and I that they are glad they were brought up like that and they are glad they have Respect for others and property and of course theirselves.
 
I think this will be very much the fault of the parents. They probably don't give a monkeys about their kids or act in a very similar way and their kids copy them.

I agree that punishments should be tougher. The problem is that the police are not interested in incidents like this. They've got bigger problems to deal with
 
Purity said:
Yes you are right. There are ways of limiting this by keeping your phone out of sight. Problem is that this is a student area, so they are all constantly using their phones. Can you tell students to stop using their phones :)
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I was hesitant about suggesting they should have a little more awareness. They shouldn't have to, any more than the rest of us should need burgular alarms,

umpteen lever locks on our doors, car alarms and immobilizers. I'm afraid that's the world we live in now, scum with "enterprise" and not much else.

But if the students were less absorbed in their little tiny make believe world, it would help.
 
D 8 RCS said:
It's about a quality that society has apparently ditched....................Respect !!!
Respect for others, Respect for property and Respect for yourself !!!! There will always be thieving scum out there, but they don't care about anyone or anything other than themself and they don't care what damage or harm they do to anyone or anything out there. This used to be the attitude of a desperate criminal, now it is the attitude of every petty thieving scrote out there and if someone dares to stand up against them they know they will become a target of threats, intimidation and violence.
And those adopting this attitude are getting younger and younger ; I walk very slowly with a stick and have been out with my wife, walking our dog and we have had kids as young as six or seven throw things at us, swear at us and generally try to scare and intimidate us and the only reason for this appears to have been that we were the only ones about and we must have looked like an easy target to frighten (although, if they came close enough they would soon find out different, but then I would probably end up being the one in the wrong).
Now, I am not saying everyone out there is like that but the numbers who are is undoubtedly increasing and although it might not be a popular view, I equate the rise in this behaviour in the decline in punishment. If I had ever seen or heard that my kids had behaved like those youngsters that I said about earlier, then my kids would of had a good smack.......................my kids knew that and they didn't do things like that, and they have said to my wife and I that they are glad they were brought up like that and they are glad they have Respect for others and property and of course theirselves.
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Sound like our fathers, don't we? Remember saying we never would ?:Biggrin2:
 
Purity said:
I think this will be very much the fault of the parents. They probably don't give a monkeys about their kids or act in a very similar way and their kids copy them.

I agree that punishments should be tougher. The problem is that the police are not interested in incidents like this. They've got bigger problems to deal with
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Can't help feeling the little problems the police neglect, become the bigger problems they can't ignore!
 
danforth said:
Can't help feeling the little problems the police neglect, become the bigger problems they can't ignore!
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Yes I would agree. I can imagine that if the behaviour of these people is not changed they will be moving onto bigger things in the future
 
Need a fake polystyrene hand sticking out of a jacket arm holding a "phone" made of solid metal with fishing hooks welded to it, long chain attached to a belt...
 
Spectre said:
Need a fake polystyrene hand sticking out of a jacket arm holding a "phone" made of solid metal with fishing hooks welded to it, long chain attached to a belt...
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Like the idea, but I've got a nasty suspicion about who would get locked up !
 
Spectre said:
Need a fake polystyrene hand sticking out of a jacket arm holding a "phone" made of solid metal with fishing hooks welded to it, long chain attached to a belt...
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And the fishing hooks wired up to a 400V inverter :Kickassro
 
Barbed hooks are banned for fishing but sound ideal for this

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Manse said:
Barbed hooks are banned for fishing but sound ideal for this

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Are they? Been so long since I did any I didn't know.

Still got a few big sea fishing hooks somewhere.
 
I think the community support officers should get a load of those fake phones, and walk around until someone nabs one. Then they can catch the buggers
 
Purity said:
I think the community support officers should get a load of those fake phones, and walk around until someone nabs one. Then they can catch the buggers
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Except they call that entrapment :(

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Purity said:
I think the community support officers should get a load of those fake phones, and walk around until someone nabs one. Then they can catch the buggers
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It would be much better if we had real police officers out on the beat, but you always get the arguement of cost.
As with all the services that we have seen decline or disappear such as bobbies on the beat, hospital staff (not bloody managers though !!), street cleaners, community nurses and midwifes, truant officers and the like, surely that is more people employed and paying tax instead of claiming unemployment benefit so financially the cost cannot be as huge as is made out, plus the streets would be safer and cleaner and the ill and vulnerable would also be properly looked after.
 
also some of the stuff we hear from the police is shocking, I attend our local PACT meeting for my area as i have a business. there has been a massive increase in theft from the local Co-op Shop. and the police told the manager "the police will not attend if the theft is under £10"...... i was amazed that the police are basically saying its ok to steal things as long as there are £9.99 or less!
 
the law punishes financial crime far more than crimes against people.
 
I had a call from the Police today. Unfortunately it sounds like they aren't pursuing it. The CCTV was poor, and also they've said around 50-60 scumbags are doing this sort of thing in the area :-(
 
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