Help with employer

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Been on the sick for 2 weeks now.. and handed in a further 2 weeks..

Last week my employer came to my house and phoned me everyday except friday..

Now on wednesday he came round and said that if i hand another sicknote in i will be classed as being off long term sickness.. So i did.. so he then said that he will organise an independent doctor to see me..

So thursday he comes again, and hands me a letter saying an appointment for an independent doctor was organised for next week.. (this week).. The oppointment is at my place of work.. is that even allowed??

I know this dickhead thinks im lying and tbh i dont care.. but surely this cannot be correct?? i always thought they told you to go to doctors place instead of him coming to mine???
 
Im sure i read somewhere that a medical had to be taken at inderpendent practice ie a doctors surgery or medical shop place,
il have look to see if i can find the info
 
i'm sure the appointment would have to be at the doctors place unless they have a medical room at ur place of work or have a doctor on the payroll but if its an indepdant doctor then surely it should be at his office ?????
 
Cheers fisco..

@ Tam, The room they will use is the room we hold out meetings in once a month... i know this because theres only 2, 1 is the office and the other is well the meeting room.. other than that theres a toilet room and the garage underneath lol... i think he may be on the payrole... ??

ive tried looking around but the info is scarce on the net ...
 
Cheers fisco..

@ Tam, The room they will use is the room we hold out meetings in once a month... i know this because theres only 2, 1 is the office and the other is well the meeting room.. other than that theres a toilet room and the garage underneath lol... i think he may be on the payrole... ??
If he's on your employer's payroll, he can hardly be considered independent, and a medical examination performed at your place of work sounds very strange.
 
if thats the case then im pretty sure it has to be in the doctors own surgery, i used to work at a few places that had medical rooms/ first aid rooms and every so often a doctor was "on call" and u had to go and see them in those rooms, i shall ask my H&S manager tomoro for the rulin
 
If he's on your employer's payroll, he can hardly be considered independent, and a medical examination performed at your place of work sounds very strange.

On the header it says "Re Clinic appointment confirmation" and then goes on to say at the office (contradicting)

But on the application it says "Application for medical report from company physician or occupation health (oh) nurse"
 
http://www.ivillage.co.uk/workcareer/culture/rights/qas/0 said:
... your company has to get your written consent in order to make you attend an independent medical examination.

However, I'd get advice from your union or the CAB may be able to help you further as this is the only instance of this I can find.
 
Cant seem to find anything now mate.
id give CAB a call mabey then can tell ya
all i saw was.
if you cannot attend a medcial man will see you at your home.
think that was regarding Benefits thou.
 
They can ask you to attend a visit at the work to see a doctor acting in behalf of the company. It does not matter what payroll he is on.

He can only act as an advisory role and no more as he CANNOT over rule your doctor. He cannot over rule your sick line.

Do what they say and go to the meeting or request it to be at a venue that suits you as you are feeling extremely stressed out by the whole situation.

Also put it in writing before the meeting that all documentation including medical notes taken by the doctor are copied and supplied to you under the data protection and freedom of information act. You could also ask for you file to be copied also, this might have information that they have against you.
This would be handy should they did try and fire you and they produce documentation that was not in your file. Fight fire with fire.


Document every phone call and letter. Also if you do have a union, use it. see what agreements they have in place that is essential.
 
legally speaking your employer is within his right to ask for a doctor to examine you

most employers consider 4 weeks sickness long term now

most employers expect you to keep in regular contact whilst off sick, i.e off every day - theory more than practise !

everything needs to be done in writing giving min of 48 hours notice to any meeting

you shall than ask for representation at any meeting you attend if your employer consider it formal [ask !] [ask if notes will be taken and your employer will have representation]

i am more concerned as to why your employer feels the need to contact you every day whilst off sick, i would consider it close to harassment and would advise that you contact them every day to keep in touch as stated in your staff handbook for example [ rarely followed]

bottom line is what have you gone off sick with ?
are you getting company sick pay ?
what is your job role ?

would help the matter greatly
 
I am sure you have read this K

Also go to/ phone Oldham Cab and ask to speak to an employment solicitor.

If you are unhappy attending your place of work to have the examination then as people have advised, write to them asking for a change of venue stating in the interests of independence you believe that it should take place outside of your work environment.

And again, document everything. A running diary is an affidavit if ever you need it.
 
for all we know this person might of gone off sick with flu

we need to know all the facts i am afraid
 
for all we know this person might of gone off sick with flu

we need to know all the facts i am afraid

I don't think we do!

The fact that K's doctor has given him another sick note suggests that there is actually something wrong with him and his employers are are maybe being a little unfair in thier actions!

This said I don't know K and therefore don't know his attendance record but then again I don't need too!

If you go back and read his original post he's asking advice on how to deal with a situation so whether he's actually sick or not is irrelevant.

The oppointment is at my place of work.. is that even allowed??

Is the question?
 
I don't think we do!

The fact that K's doctor has given him another sick note suggests that there is actually something wrong with him and his employers are are maybe being a little unfair in thier actions!
I agree. Nobody here is qualified to make an online medical assessment of whatever ails the guy, nor would such a thing be relevant to his original question.

It seems to me that Ephid0r is right about the potential harrassment aspect of this, though. The employer is certainly within his right to keep informed, and to request an independent medical assessment, but if daily phone calls doesn't sound a bit intense, showing up, I assume unannounced, at the guy's home is definitely a bit unusual, depending on their personal relationship, of course. The suggested at-work examination just seems to underline this, assuming it wasn't just a badly worded misunderstanding. I don't see why the employer would even request such a thing, if the work place doesn't have specific medical facilities, unless it's just a continuation of this apparent campaign of harassment.

Anyway, as others have suggested, getting some legal advice and clarification on all this would probably be a good idea.
 
might be handy to start looking in newspaper classified section...
 
:err: I can't say that reply is relevant to K's question? Are you assuming he's guilty of faining illness? Or am I mistaken?

Please elaborate?

I'd say it is relevant, sounds like the relationship between k and his employer has broken down or there wasn't a good reltionship there before. Not laying the blame at anyones door but low staff moral is a big cause of workplace abscence. It might just be time to head for pastures new.

thebigman
 
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