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Hi all Just thinking out loud - A few years ago when the pin protection was added to the movie channels we were dumping the nvram from Pace 4010's and Samsung 2100's and putting ba

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    RSA Key extraction?

    Hi all

    Just thinking out loud - A few years ago when the pin protection was added to the movie channels we were dumping the nvram from Pace 4010's and Samsung 2100's and putting back amended dumps if I remember correctly. If we did this again and compared a few from the same model box would we be able to narrow down where the info we need is? And is this something that existed on the older firmwares or is it newly implemented on 3.7 ready for N3 cards? I presume the RSA key is individual for each box in the same way as a boxkey so even if this is possible this would only be functional for those with an N3 card in an older box.

    Im guessing it will be pretty much impossible on any of the newer boxes to get the RSA key even by chip removal ? Even though there were some false dawns no-one ever managed to get a bk from a Samsung 2110 so I cant think it will give up anything else.



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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    Go ahead and try it

    Thats the only way people will find out.

    There too busy waiting to get spoonfed.

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    I just shake the box vigorously until all of the RSA keys fall out.

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    Sorry, it turns out they weren't RSA keys at all, they were cornflakes.

    I should've gone to specsavers.

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    You need some brain food (ie fish)

    Got myself some new piranah fish.

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    I wonder if vm keep a database of the RSA keys. May be a disgruntled ex-employee may leak it on the net lol.

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    I dont have a problem trying it - just wanted to make sure the info will be contained in the dump if possible before I borrow a 4010. I wouldnt bank on that particular database existing anywhere that a regular employee, disgruntled or not, would have access to it!!

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    Ithink u will find that the BK can be found in the 2110 & SA8300 , but only by a few peolpe ! & quite alot of exp kit ! as i understand the RSA can be got with the correct details,!!! from both the N1 & N3 card from the same box, (but only a on few models)

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    Quote Originally Posted by geforcefx View Post
    Ithink u will find that the BK can be found in the 2110 & SA8300 , but only by a few peolpe ! & quite alot of exp kit ! as i understand the RSA can be got with the correct details,!!! from both the N1 & N3 card from the same box, (but only a on few models)
    I have no reason to doubt you but considering the amount of 2110's and sa8300 about without paired cards if it was possible im sure even if the method wasnt made public someone would have been offering a pay service retrieving BK's from them??

    So from what you are saying the RSA can be got from just the card?

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    Re: RSA Key extraction?

    Quote Originally Posted by gooner71 View Post
    I have no reason to doubt you but considering the amount of 2110's and sa8300 about without paired cards if it was possible im sure even if the method wasnt made public someone would have been offering a pay service retrieving BK's from them??
    Yes there are 2 guys offering this commercially, both are in Poland.

    1 of them will tell you that it's pointless as no one has manged to get a softcam to read a virgin n3 card so the rsa is pretty useless.



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