N line "Trick", steal cards from a CCcam-server with OScam

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be very careful guys

I found a big problem for us honest CCcam user.

It is very easy to steal cards from a CCcam-server with OScam.

OScam has a option named cccam reader.
With that option you can use a C: line as a cardreader.

For example:
My peer has Sky Germany as a local card in his CCcam-server and gives me a C: line, then i can use this C: line to connect via OScam to his server.
Code:

[reader]
label = CCcam_Server
protocol = cccam
device = ddns,port
account = username,password
group = 1
caid = 1702
cccversion = 2.0.11
cccbuild = 2892
cccmaxhop = 1

Code:

[newcamd]
Key = 0102030405060708091011121314
Port = 10000@1702:000000

Now i have made the C: line to a N: line and my peer didn't notice anything. I'm connected as a CCcam client for him.

I can use this N: line now to fake me a own local card with a CCcam version smaler then 2.1.4 with the 256 N: line trick.

Even if my peer gives me no reshare for his card, i can share his card 7 hops down if i want.

so this is why you see people with 10 LOCALS , they dont actually have any, but are using the oscam logins to YOUR locals.

thx Eggs_n_Beans
 
to all the people who have been saying that cccam is the best etc etc and for years ive been saying its unsecure and a risk etc etc

read the above again

ive never recommended cccam to anyone for the 'reshare' reasons highlighted by this, stuff like this using cccam reshares, and commercial servers is what will end the cardsharing HOBBY
 
Agree with the payserver comments 100%, these scumbags will finish our hobby. My advise to all using cccam is only accept shares from people using the latest version 2.14, people using this version and trying to use the 256 trick will see the fake cards appear in hop 10 instead of local, and be sure to test all shares regulary.
 
Dont share with "unknown" 3rd parties, keep your shares to people who can be trusted and only use and accept shares from CCAM 2.1.4 and not below.
 
Yeah but times have moved on now and the problem is slightly different and not much you can do about it..

Whats stopping you having oscam/CCcam on the same server you give X card via CCcam. You take Y card to which you feed into oscam. Am not going to go furthur as you can see where this is going.... But its payserver heaven..

To be honest the 256 trick is that old now and pretty much dead easy to spot only a numpty is using it. The problem you have now will be you card being used as above to which you have no control of who is using your card..

just some food for thought.

Si
 
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This is exactly why I was warning people a while back about putting cards into a certain closed source box which can be used as a sever.
 
If one is running a closed share with friends and family is this something they should be worried about?
 
If one is running a closed share with friends and family is this something they should be worried about?

Probably not unless your friends/family are likely to tinker and reshare, join servers for foreign cards etc...

Might me a good idea to change the defualt telnet/FTP password to the boxes in such cases so they can mess with the cccam.cfg files.
 
So what do you recommend for all the people that have a Sky Italia card as a local who have to use OScam to read the card as thats the only emulator that can currently read it? Or all the people who own Technomate 500's & 600's and who wish to share their white cards with other peers? Or people who own a Tring card, Sky Germany card, Viasat card and a whole host of other cards that this half baked emulator can't or wont read? What do people do then not bother sharing there cards with other peers? Try to find a peer whose willing to accept your hop 1 card? As I know what I would say. And are we forgetting the fact that the CCcam 2.14 source code was stolen? So who knows what can be done by people who are able to reverse engineer the code. I'm sticking to using CCcam 2.13 with the 256 trick as I keep an eye on my peers and anybody who has higher than average ECM's will be disconnected and contacted about it. At the end of the day we are all stealing and sharing information which is illegal and to turn around and post warnings about OScam and virtual cards (which isn't new) seems a little bit hypocritical.

Regards

Liam
 
When i say that only numpties use the 256 trick i meant the ones that try an pass cards that they dont have off as their own..

Si

Except you though Liam you are a numty..lol
 
For a SlyUK card is it NewCam with MGCam combo recommended?
 
I think the best combo might be the one the doesn't broadcast the card serial over the network.

Si
 
newcs and mgcamd

newcs talks to the card, and holds ECMs in a cache, mgcamd then talks to newcs for the ECMs

using the newcs CP, if you see anyone connecting with anything other than mgcamd, disconnect them

even with slyIT, even though oscam is the only on that will read the card fully, mgcamd will talk to oscam

if you want to tighten your own security, get rid of cccam from your own stuff, and anyone you let connect to you
 
to all the people who have been saying that cccam is the best etc etc and for years ive been saying its unsecure and a risk etc etc

read the above again

ive never recommended cccam to anyone for the 'reshare' reasons highlighted by this, stuff like this using cccam reshares, and commercial servers is what will end the cardsharing HOBBY
Hi its beign a long time been away from cable/sat stuff but ,i found this very interesting ,my question is that i use oscam at the moment but how do i use it as a stand alone for card sharing ,at d moment i write nline out and use it on cccam ,i would love to use it as a stand alone if possible you can tell me what to do ,or manual to do this
 
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Hi mate,
is there any particular reason why you want to use oscam?
NewCS would be the way to go or cccam if you want it hassle free.
Regards,
CrazyFool.
 
So guys,

Is there anything else that can be done, other than watching the ecm count when exchanging c:lines with people reporting to be using CCcam?

For instance on a certain site there is a section for exchanging c lines, people will advertise say Sky-IT or DE under the CCcam section, are we saying that these cards cannot be read by this emu and these people must in fact be using OScam?

Frenchman
 
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