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Is cccam capable of decrypting NDS ECM's?

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    cccam with NDS

    Is cccam capable of decrypting NDS ECM's?



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    Re: cccam with NDS

    cccam 2.1.3 / 2.1.4 will read a NDS card happily

    as for decrypting without a card.. (or a share) no chance

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    Re: cccam with NDS

    I guess what im asking is, is it possible to manually update the softcam.key with a valid NDS control word (key) and clear services?

    For example if I know someone who is on a CS pay server, so therefore can I simply replace MY own softcam.key file with his and will this clear services?

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    Re: cccam with NDS

    you can only clear any ND$ channel with an active subscription card, either locally or via a server connection, no softcam file will do it

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    Re: cccam with NDS

    why is this... im quite confiused about encryption now. Does this also go the same for all of them, excecpt cryptoworks, as I know cryptoworks is still possible with a softcam.

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    Re: cccam with NDS

    softcams keys are publicly knows, and dont change very often, monthly? weekly? daily?

    an ND$ key changes on average every 9 seconds, twice, it uses 2 key lines, one in use, and the next one, then it swaps, so by the time you found the key, created a softcam file, loaded it onto your receiver, and restarted the cam for the new softcam to kick in, the key needed to clear the picture would have actually changed 4 or 5 times

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    Re: cccam with NDS

    Thats actually cleared a hell of allot up for me. thanks...

    Does this mean that the NDS card decrypts the control message (ecm), where it extracts the control word (cw aka key) and sends thisword to the receivers hardware/software, then clears the channel?

    Does this also go for all the other Encryptions such as seca 3, n3, viaaccess? Do they change their cw every 9 seconds or so?



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