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    gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    Hi,

    I am an owner of a 500s clone box. I see here that someone has uploaded the gemini 4.6 no timebomb image... Which I dont understand...

    I run the normal 4.6 gemini image from I-have-a-dreambox, and it has been running without anny problems for a year now. So are these two images the same??? The normal does not have a timebomb, as my box would crash if it had.....



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    Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    gemini image 4.6 were known to kill the dm500 clone. If you have been running a gemini 4.6 on your box than I would forget about gemini 4.6 nobomb as it does not really apply to your box.

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    Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    Quote Originally Posted by Curious123 View Post
    gemini image 4.6 were known to kill the dm500 clone. If you have been running a gemini 4.6 on your box than I would forget about gemini 4.6 nobomb as it does not really apply to your box.
    But is it not the same image... As the normal 4.6 image does not have a timebomb either.... Never heard about 4.6 killing a 500s, and I know a lot of other people running it on a clone... So Im still confused

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    Question Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    hi
    i've just been given a 500s to mess about with
    can any one please point me in the right direction????????
    i've got a 500c and i have dw 2 on it it all is good there but i don't know anything abot the 500s,,,,,
    please help

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    Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    the 4.60 image running on a DM500 clone CAN still brick it for you!
    BUT it depends who you brought the clone from as different manufacturers will doo different things to it.

    i have a clone from dvbseller & he changes the mac address of the network card & a few other key things BUT he still asks you NOT to use the original gemini 4.6 as he cannot guaruntee that the changes he has made will stop the timebomb

    for peace of mind if i install any gemini image i always use the no time bomb version & i recommend you do to

    before you do make sure you get a backup of /var/* then install the no time bomb version when all is up and running just ftp up the /var folder you backed up & all should be as it was but this time you have no worries about one day turning on a nice dream multimedia paper weight!!

    also there are some tools out the which will check to see if yours has a time bomb in it pm me if you want a copy of this checker tool & i will put it up on my website for you & give you a link.


    all 3 DM500 are the same but:
    DM500-s = sat tuner (dvb-s)
    DM500-c = cable tuner (dvb-c)
    DM500-t = terrestial tuner (dvb-t) [freeview/digital tv)

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    Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    thanx
    a coppy of the link would be great,
    you sound like you know wat your talkin about i've dloaded
    - dcc
    - dream up
    - flash wizard pro 6.3
    - dw_v_2.1
    - and i got some keys
    - even the total spoon fed how to guide

    what are emu's????

    is there anything i'm missing???

    any help trying to get through all the jargon and puting it all together would be realy appreciated........

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    Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    well in that case welcome to dreambox land

    ok i'll get it for you tonight after 1800GMT as im a work lol
    but

    have you made any changes to your gemini setup?
    if not don't bother taking a backup of /var/* as this will just add time to what you want to do.

    further Questions:
    is there any reason as to why you want to use gemini 4.60 as i found it to be a bit unstable at time & have it as my 3rd choice of DM500 image
    i prefer:
    1st sifteam v194 (need to register on their site to download v.stable has huge addons section & tons of skins)
    2nd NabiloSat Darkstar 2 (stable but has some glitches when memory is close to 95% full)
    3rd Gemini 4.60 no TimeBomb version (bit less stable first image i used random reboot & after lots of cam restarts i get a FATAL ERROR which requires power down)


    create a folder on ya pc for your dreambox backup (C:\DM500) & open DCC
    have it connect to your dreambox when that is up & running goto FTP
    now this window is split into 2 halves:

    LEFT pane = local PC
    RIGHT pane = dreambox
    in between the 2 panes you have 2 buttons
    one to download (copy from dreambox)
    one to upload (copy from local pc)

    in the left pane browse through the icons and locate the folder you just made (C:\DM500
    now in the right pane select /var then click on the download button (hover over button & it will tell what it does)
    when this completes close down DCC then fireup either flashwizard to flash over Ethernet or if you want safety get out ya null modem cable & connect it to ya pc & other end to dreambox rs232 socket then fire up dreamup & proceed to flash ya dreambox with the no time bomb version of Gemini 4.60 ...i take it you have already downloaded a copy of that image


    Emu's = Card Access Module Emulators AKA CAM's
    essentially they pretend to be a hardware device which interacts with the card reader built into the dreambox & will be used to decrypt the channel you want to watch IE:
    if you want to watch SKY UK you will need:
    CCcam 2.11 & NewCS 1.66
    so then when you install & configure these (i can advise once we have you box working) they will talk to your WHITE sky card when it is inserted into the card reader & confirm to gemini that the channel can be decrypted & you will be able to watch the channels which are encrypted

    cams can be found in the 'Addon's' menu via the yellow button i think.

    if you need anything i should be able to help ya find it but i think you have enough for now

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    Thumbs up Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    wow thanx some one on here who wants to help us 1st timers lol...
    this help is greatly appreciated
    and more to the point a very good way of helping newbies to understand
    how and what the things are......
    you should sticky this bud



    thanx for the help and support....

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    Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    just read more about this topic. The gemini team say that the new versions do NOT have anny timebombs.... It has been removed... I also searched for forum post from people which have had the "asta la vista" non of them have had it with the 4.6

    can anyone confirm this?

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    Re: gemini 4,6 for clone 500s

    i cant as my trust for gemini has dropped because:

    1
    they decided to put a bomb in the image anyway!
    2
    my experience of the 4.6 image was it was unstable now weather this is because it was modified to remove the bomb or not i dont know but in my experience the sifteam194 image seems like a mixture of darkstar2 & gemini 4.60 lol so i got my set up working & i aint gonna change it

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