Posting a Samurai Sword - Straight Blade

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A friend of a friend would like to buy a "Samurai Sword" and according to the law it states:

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As of the 6th April 2008 the Government will be introducing an amendment to the Criminal Justice Act 1988 which will see the addition of some Swords to the Offensive Weapons Order list. This is a list of items prohibited for sale, import, trade of transfer within the UK.

Guide now updated to include details of the 2nd amendment to the CJA 1988 which came into force on the 1st August 2008.

There is much confusion regarding this new legislation so below is a quick reference FAQ detailing how this new legislation affects you.

Questions:


Q: Are all swords now illegal?

A: No. the new legislation only covers some swords with a curved blade over 50cm.

Q: Is it just Samurai Swords that are now banned?

A: No. ANY sword with a curved blade over 50cm is now banned from sale, import, trade or transfer.

This includes Persian Talwars, Military Cavalry swords, some Fantasy swords and many other types of sword unless specifically exempted

Q: Are all Samurai Swords now banned?

A: Under UK legislation, no. The law only affects some swords over 50cm so although Katana swords are now banned (unless covered by the list of exemptions), most Wakizashi and Tanto swords have blades under 50cm so are unaffected by this legislation

Q: Are straight bladed swords affected?

A: No. The new legislation only covers curved bladed swords - straight bladed swords are totally unaffected by this legislation.
The Home Office have indicated that there may be an extension of the legislation to cover all swords by October 2008 but as yet this is undecided.

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So question, with it being a Samurai and it's straight blade, what makes that legal, rather than a curved blade illegal?

I don't see the point in it.... (pun intended....lol)
 
check out your local auction house mate for clarifcation as i sold 2 WW1 swords about 8 months ago at auction and both had curved blades
both sold and i got £300 bucks for them

oh and both where Military Cavalry swords
 
Thanks for the heads up and that on that one then, so a straight blade is fine, just curious to why they banned "curved" blades.

Q; Are there any exemptions?

A: Yes. There are several exemptions to the sword ban - These exemptions are:

•Members of historical re-enactment groups which hold a Public Liability Certificate.

•Members of a Martial Arts club which hold a Public Liability Certificate.

•Use for authorized Theatrical / film use.

•All Swords over 100 years old.

•Samurai Swords made before 1954.

•Samurai Swords made in Japan at any time using the traditional forging technique.

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Q: What are the penalties for breaking the new law?


A: Anyone convicted of breaking this new legislation will be liable to 6 months imprisonment, a fine not exceeding Level 5 on the standard scale (£5000) or both. :eh?:
 
lol! so we have started an argument here, what's the difference between a "curved" and a "straight"
 
Kwan Jang Nim Dickson Kunz sent me an email today kindly correcting me on my Sept.7 Blog post Kuk Sool Won Weapons - Complete with Pictures with regards to what was posted about Straight Swords and Curved Swords. The email from Master Kunz was too good not to share so below is Kwan Jang Nim Kunz explaining the difference between a Straight Bladed and Curve Bladed Sword.
The reason you only see curved blades in cutting demos is because the tempering process changes the crystalline structure of the metal, causing it to ‘bend.’ Only double edged swords are straight (the curve on one side ‘cancels out’ the curve on the other). In olden times, practice swords were only made of wood due to the expense of metalworking. Nowadays, it’s still considerably cheaper to own a metal practice sword than one that is tempered for cutting, just as a wooden practice sword is far cheaper than one made of metal.
Metal practice swords are typically made of a blank bar of steel (or aluminum), merely having a sharp edge ground into one side, so the shape is still that of a ’straight’ bar of steel. Only recently have I seen practice swords made with the curved shape resembling an actual tempered blade. As a result of the extra shaping involved, these newer versions of a practice sword are more expensive than the previously available generic type. The bottom line of all this is that you will never find a single-edged quality cutting sword that is straight instead of curved.
So there you have it. Thank You Kwan Jang Nim for clearing that up for us. As with anybody who contributes to this Blog I happily pass along a little Link Love. Master Kunz currently is instructing at

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Original source:Curved vs. Straight Sword - What is the Difference?

I dunno if this helps out anyone i just had to do a bit of digging for this information.I used to collect swords but sold them all on in the end.

Its a funny one really as to what is a straight and curved blade.
 
They should all be banned and handed in imo. Weve had samurai sword attacks in this area before and the wounds and devestation they cause is horrific. Imo they should be banned along with air weapons from sale to the general public.
 
They should all be banned and handed in imo. Weve had samurai sword attacks in this area before and the wounds and devestation they cause is horrific. Imo they should be banned along with air weapons from sale to the general public.

So should I stop my 14 yo son from training with sai then, he will eventually be taught how to use other forms of blades and weapons..

he is of course 2nd Dan and trained for 10 years and knows the difference between offensive and defensive use.

You can still bring swords in if they are blunt, you just need to find a good knife sharpener..
 
So should I stop my 14 yo son from training with sai then, he will eventually be taught how to use other forms of blades and weapons..

he is of course 2nd Dan and trained for 10 years and knows the difference between offensive and defensive use.

You can still bring swords in if they are blunt, you just need to find a good knife sharpener..

No because that is in a controlled environment. Im talking about the shops were you can just walk in and buy a rifle or samurai sword or various other blades.
 
is there any point in banning any thing hand guns where ban many years a go and still there are used to kill

you do not stop something by banning it ,drugs have been ban for many years yet still we have them
 
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