thanks for that.. will have to keep posting then lol

looking at the vu+duo this looks more promising for my needs dual tuner plus also has HDMI and component out so i could hook it upto a tv and a slingbox to stream to my pc/ipad. not sure how i would do it with the dm800se ( it would only be sd as there is only a hdmi) unless it does into a splitter box or something???

All my boxes have been direct from China, no point paying a premium for the possibility of maybe getting some support from a UK based supplier.

When I got my Duo I have to admit I hated it as for me the dm800se just worked but now that I've got the Duo setup and running I've sort of starting to like it. Teh clone I had also had a shockingly noisy fan which I also had to swap out whereas when the dm800se arrived it was chose an image and away you go. I've still not found a skin that I like on the Duo and am constantly trying differing skins much to the annoyance of my family.

Originally Posted by grantsmith82

thanks for that.. will have to keep posting then lol

looking at the vu+duo this looks more promising for my needs dual tuner plus also has HDMI and component out so i could hook it upto a tv and a slingbox to stream to my pc/ipad. not sure how i would do it with the dm800se ( it would only be sd as there is only a hdmi) unless it does into a splitter box or something???

The clone dm800se have both scart and HDMI outputs active at the same time so you have one HD and one SD. If you wanted to get component from the scart output there are RGB to Component converters available that take the RGB from a scart and then convert and output as component. Using a splitter box to split a single source output into two source outputs could degrade the quality of the signal unless you add an amplifier.

The Vu+ Duo clone does have it's attractions including the option to load a ViX image, however, there have been a few reports of PSU problems and the Vu+ Ultima clones are supposed to be just round the corner which might affect any resale value. Personally, at this point in time I would go for the dm800se as it is an established and very well supported clone.

Whatever receiver you get, if you are going to stream it onto the internet outside of your home network you will need a decent upload speed from your ISP otherwise the quality will be poor and jerky, especially if you are thinking of streaming HD.



Cdmt
Pimpi

Thanks for the advise PIMPUR CRACK, can i ask what is a vix image? i did hear VU+duo clones had unreliable PSUs. i think if i was going to go for the VU+duo i may got for an original. My broadband is on BT Infinity i get 30mb download and about 5.5mb upload. not sure if that would suffice for streaming?


IAMATEAF, is the VU+duo more difficult to setup from new? now you have used both which do you prefer overall?

Originally Posted by grantsmith82

Thanks for the advise PIMPUR CRACK, can i ask what is a vix image? i did hear VU+duo clones had unreliable PSUs. i think if i was going to go for the VU+duo i may got for an original. My broadband is on BT Infinity i get 30mb download and about 5.5mb upload. not sure if that would suffice for streaming?


IAMATEAF, is the VU+duo more difficult to setup from new? now you have used both which do you prefer overall?

A ViX image is one of the more popular images and it is available for Vu+ receivers but is not available for the dreambox receivers. Your BT Infinity is fast enough upload speed for streaming, if you want to increase it, upgrade it free of charge to BT Infinity2 if it is available in your area?



Cdmt
Pimpi

Pimpur Crack, dont get me started on that... lol i put the request in may to upgrade to "infinity2" 80mb service it all went through ok and i had no speed increase at all.
had bt out 2 or 3 times trying to see why looks like copper under streets in my aera is poo i only live 700 meters from the cab and from the cab to the pole it looses about 50meg. so at my pole im getting about 35mb then about 32mb in real speed.. my only hope is FTTP (and i dont live in a virgin cable area either)

Originally Posted by grantsmith82

Pimpur Crack, dont get me started on that... lol i put the request in may to upgrade to "infinity2" 80mb service it all went through ok and i had no speed increase at all.
had bt out 2 or 3 times trying to see why looks like copper under streets in my aera is poo i only live 700 meters from the cab and from the cab to the pole it looses about 50meg. so at my pole im getting about 35mb then about 32mb in real speed.. my only hope is FTTP (and i dont live in a virgin cable area either)

Ah well, your current upload will be fast enough anyway. I have streamed HD in 16:9 aspect encoded in flash format and it only runs at ~1.2mbps. If you are not encoding into flash format it will probably take up more bandwidth but you should still be OK with your 5.5mb upload.

I am not sure how good a slingbox is at streaming full screen HD over the internet, I have never tried it as I always use a video capture card in a PC then encode to flash. With a slingbox you are restricted to one remote viewer as far as I am aware and not multiple viewers which might be something to consider. If it's only for your own personal viewing then the lack of multiple viewing is not a factor. I keep meaning to look around for a cheap 2nd hand slingbox to see how good they are.



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i guess i would use a pc/laptop to view the slingbox or maybe (reluctantly) pay £20 for the ipad/iphone app (least you can share the app with upto 5 more devises so only pay once) but poo you can only view one at a time be nice to be able to watch it on ipad and a pc at same time

For just watching TV both the Duo and dm800se clone do their job. All the while that I had a single tuner box I never really envisaged that I'd make much use of a dual tuner box but now that I have it my son always has something on record knowing that his sister or mum can't come along and disrupt the recording.

I'm using the Vix image on my Duo and did have an arse clenching moment today, the box signalled that there was an online update so I updated as I've done previously except this time the box just remained forever on starting... Had to flash the box with an old OpenPLi image before putting Vix back on to get it working again.