id just like to thank everybody for the input you,v made my mind up its going to be a vu-duo + 1tb hd +flashed with blackhole iv seen this for around 480 could you please tell me of any good retailers ,ps if you have any ideas as to what dish setup i should use for the best results they would be very welcome great forum love it

dish set up depends on what satellites you want to view,

if its just 28.2E for sly uk then it'll be just a bog standard 45cm static dish in most cases.
if you want more satellites then you want to look at motorised dish or multi lnb.

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@ bassethound we do not allow link to other forums mate

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it was a link to a shop.

Motorised would be the best option for this receiver and also have a fixed Sly Uk Dish is going for the VU+ Duo version.

I know images are based on opinion, but having tried both I would recommend ViX image it's solid and some great features too.